In contrast when you create a a GCS bucket it uses a checkmark for enabling “public access prevention”. Who designed that modal? It takes me a solid minute to figure out if I’m publishing private data or not.
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheSimpsons/comments/26vdkf/dont_do...
Before anyone comes to me to sell me on AI, this is on my personal account, I have and use it in my business account (but it is a completely different user account), I just make it a point to not use it in my personal time so I can keep my skills sharp.
It could be incompetence but it shouldn't matter. This level of incompetence should be punished equally to malice.
Nowadays, It genuinely feels a lot less because there are now services who will re-write the code to prevent the license.
Previously, I used to still think that somewhat non propreitory licenses like the SSPL license etc. might be interesting approaches but I feel like they aren't that much prone to this either now anymore.
So now I am not exactly sure.
Dark pattern and dick move.
I'm a little surprised the options aren't "Enable" and "Ask me later".
I agree that it feels like a dart pattern for the most part, makes me want to use codeberg/self hosted git
Now "Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training" is enabled by default.
Turn it off here: https://github.com/settings/copilot/features
Do they have this set on business accounts also by default? If so, this is really shady.
To add on to your (already helpful!) instructions:
- Go to https://github.com/settings/copilot/features - Go to the "Privacy" section - Find: "Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training" - Set to disabled
But English is not my first language so please correct me if I'm wrong.
You can't believe Microslop is force-feeding people Copilot in yet another way?
> and didn't even post the direct URLs to disable in their blog post
You can't believe Microshaft didn't tell you how to not get shafted?
> Why are you only using data from individuals while excluding businesses and enterprises?
> Our agreements with Business and Enterprise customers prohibit using their Copilot interaction data for model training, and we honor those commitments. Individual users on Free, Pro, and Pro+ plans have control over their data and can opt out at any time.
Ah, so when the inevitable "bug" appears, and we all learn that you've completely failed to honor anything, what will be your "commitment" then? An apology and a few free months?
Time to start pushing for a self hosted git service again.
> Again, your organization's Copilot interaction data is not included in model training under this new policy, but we are excited for you to enjoy the product improvements it will unlock.
It's just unusual how quickly they're going for the shakedown this time
> Business and Copilot Enterprise users are not affected by this update.
Notable that they have no "privacy" section in account settings
Big Tech is known for clearing illegal things by their legal departments all the time.
Looks like not, but would it actually have been shadier, or are we just used to individual users being fucked over?
People are weirdly willing to shrug when it's some solo coder getting fleeced instead of a company with lawyers and procurement people in the room. If an account tier is doing all the moral cleanup, the policy is bad.
The interesting nuance is the enforcement mechanism. martinwoodward clarified below that exclusion happens at the user level, not the repo level: if you're a member of a paid org, your interaction data is excluded even on a free personal Copilot account. That's actually more protective than I expected — it handles the contractor case where someone works across multiple repos of varying org types.
The remaining ambiguity is temporal: if someone leaves an org, do their historical interactions get retroactively included? Policy answers to that question are hard to verify and even harder to audit.
So by default you send all this to Microsoft by opening your IDE.
On top of that, Gemini 3 refuses to refactor open source code, even if you fork it, if Gemini thinks your changes would violate the spirit of the intent of the original developers in a safety/security context. Even if you think you're actually making it more secure, but Gemini doesn't, it won't write your code.
You shouldn't use Google Ai products, they are inferior. Their models are quite good. It's confusing when people use the model name when referring to a product. What's your setup?
It's so bizarre to be discussing minor security concerns of backdoors, like trying to block env vars. Of course the maintainers don't care about blocking env vars. It's security theater.
There is no Github anymore in any meaningful way. It's Microsoft. Github doesn't have a CEO anymore.
What on earth are they thinking...
@mariorod's public README says one of his focuses is "shaping narratives and changing \"How we Work\"", so there you go.
> freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous. In order to obtain freely given consent, it must be given on a voluntary basis.
While some think this applies only to personal data, then yes. But it takes only one line of code to use my phone number for testing while I test locally a register form in the application I'm developing.
Once it gets sent to Copilot I can threaten with legal action if they are not taking it down.
If you don't want to wait until your PII inevitably gets sent through, you can already now file a complaint to your local supervisory authority: https://www.edpb.europa.eu/about-edpb/about-edpb/members_en
Short delay: depends on your DPA, I doubt any country is fast enough. On the other hand, this is the legitimate interest of GitHub, so it would require investigation, maybe even litigation.
I'd be curious to see which countries are affected
Why would I even spend time choosing a copyleft license if any bot will use my code as training data to be used in commercial applications? I'm not planning on creating any more opensource code, and what projects of mine still have users will be left on GH for posterity.
If you're still serious about opensource, time to move to Codeberg.
I scratch my open source itch by contributing to existing language and OS projects where incremental change means eventually having to retrain models to get accurate inference :)
"others are doing it too so it's ok"
> The data used in this program may be shared with GitHub affiliates, which are companies in our corporate family including Microsoft
So every Microsoft owned company will have access to all data Copilot wants to store?
Mobile
https://github.com/settings/billing/licensing
EDIT:
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/manage-your-accou...
> If you have been granted a free access to Copilot as a verified student, teacher, or maintainer of a popular open source project, you won’t be able to cancel your plan.
Oh. jeez.
On Android for instance I invite you to use the GitHub app and modify your opt-in or opt outside settings... You will find that nothing works on the settings page once you actually find the settings page after digging through a couple of layers and scrolling about 2 ft.
Who in their right mind will opt into sharing their code for training? Absolutely nobody. This is just a dark pattern.
Btw, even if disabled, I have zero confidence they are not already training on our data.
I would also recommend to sprinkle copyright noticed all over the place and change the license of every file, just in case they have some sanity checks before your data gets consumed - just to be sure.
1- Vulnerabilities, Secrets can be leaked to other users. 2- Intellectual Property, can also be leaked to other users.
Most smart clients won't opt-out, they will just cut usage entirely.
(I prefer Emacs anyway, but VSCode is a worthy tool.)
What does “my code...for my clients” mean (is it yours or theirs)? If it’s theirs let them house it and delegate access to you. If they want to risk it being, ahem...borrowed, that’s their business decision to make.
If it’s yours, you can host it yourself and maintain privacy, but the long tail risk of maintaining it is not as trivial as it seems on the surface. You need to have backups, encrypted, at different locations, geographically distant, so either you need physical security, or you’re using the cloud and need monitoring and alerting, and then need something to monitor the monitor.
It’s like life. Freedom means freedom from tyranny, not freedom from obligation. Choosing a community or living solo in the wilderness both come with different obligations. You can pay taxes (and hope you’re not getting screwed, too much), or you can fight off bears yourself, etc.
A user can be a contributor to a private repository, but not have that repository owner organisation’s license to use copilot. They can still use their personal free tier copilot on that repository.
How can enterprises be confident that their IP isn’t being absorbed into the GH models in that scenario?
Maybe it's already active in our accounts and we don't realize it, so our code will be used to train the AI.
Now we can't be sure if this will happen or not, but a company like GitHub should be staying miles away from this kind of policy. I personally wouldn't use GitHub for private corporate repositories. Only as a public web interface for public repos.
At this point, is there any magic in software development?
If you have super-secret-content is a third party the best location?
This setting does not represent my wishes and I definitely would not have set it that way on purpose. It was either defaulted that way, or when the option was presented to me I configured it the opposite of how I intended.
Fortunately, none of the work I do these days with Copilot enabled is sensitive (if it was I would have been much more paranoid).
I'm in the USA and pay for Copilot as an individual.
Shit like this is why I pay for duck.ai where the main selling point is that the product is private by default.
There should also be a much easier one-click to opt out without having to scroll way down on the settings page.
1. A lot of settings are 'Enabled' with no option to opt out. What can I do?
2. How do I opt out of data collection? I see the message informing me to opt out, but 'Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training' is already disabled for my account.
Sounds like you are already opted out because you'd previously opted out of the setting allowing GitHub to collect this data for product improvements. But I can check that.
Note, it's only _usage_ data when using Copilot that is being trained on. Therefore if you are not using Copilot there is no usage data. We do not train on private data at rest in your repos etc.
I was unable to change the setting when I used the GitHub app to open up the web page in a container.. button clicks weren't working. Quite frustrating.
If someone takes that code and pokes around on it with a free tier copilot account, GitHub will just absorb it into their model - even if it’s explicitly against that code’s license to do so?
Now is the time to run off of GitHub and consider Codeberg or self hosting like I said before. [0]
I'm not sure there are any good GitHub alternatives. I don't trust Gitlab either. Their landing page title currently starts with "Finally, AI". Eek.
Sounds like it's even likely to train on content from private repositories. This feels like a bit of an overstep to me.
How much longer do you want to tolerate the enshittification? How much longer CAN you tolerate it?
Shit like this shouldn't be allowed.
It’s not about being grateful or something, but that many people (devs) are too concerned about their code being stolen as if they’ve come up with something unique and the LLMs are some kind of database (which it isn’t).
At the end of the day we’re going to be using AI to write all the code, many of us already doing that. And if some GitHub copilot model would be better - we’re getting more quality code that is generally available for next pretraining runs (for your and other models). Some would even switch to copilot if it’s good.
What do you think about it?
Enabled = You will have access to the feature
Disabled = You won't have access to the feature
As if handing over your data for free is a perk. Kinda hilarious.