OP strikes me as quite childish. I’m guessing he’s quite young, nothing wrong with that.
And yeah, the circumstances aren’t great (the stressful move to SF in particular). Tough break!
andytrattner.com andys.blog
DOB 1/11/1996 cheers- from mequon wisconsin
Intellect and prestige will only get you so far; but being an egotistical, passive-aggressive antagonist will stunt your development professionally and personally. Quoting egotistical tech titans doesn't justify it, and using cutesy internet-speak cadence doesn't mask it.
Just my $0.02.
scenes from italian restaurant was #1 according to BJ
If you’re going to fail hard and learn it from it, you could do worse than these experiences. If you’re at a startup, you’re either there for the economic opportunity of being on a rocket ship (equity lottery ticket), learning how to be a founder (because you might want to found your own startup), or learning how to do what your role is because you don’t have enough experience to be hired elsewhere (imho). Getting fired is fine, as long as you grow from the experience and weren’t actively or intentionally malicious (don’t do that). Pick yourself up, do better next role and company cast. It’s just a job.
(better than dario's) cheers
love the unsolicited wealth of advice
oh and esp for asian americans #metoo
The tactlessness is just awful. I would consider deleting that post.
And then making this post? It's a pattern of self-destructive behavior.
The best possible course of action at this point is deleting the blog post. Note that the separation agreement you signed prohibits you from sharing any Separation Information—including consideration (in this case the $20K figure you reference is part of the consideration). Your blog post is public evidence and even this comment I'm making right now could end up in discovery if your former employer wanted. If I were you, I would not antagonize them further.
nice HN track record i believe you credibly. keep replying. go ahead.
that's my preferred form of antagonism is written speech on the internet. please excuse me while i continue antagnozing you who has nothing to do with the employer in question at all whatsover and never will
good luck to you sir
throwaday0451 as you characterize me as a blackmailer, are you sure you don't mean "negotiating" or "communicating"?
if so your words are injurous and damage me. do you have a lawyer i can talk to about this public defamation of my language and mischaracterizing me on Hackernews?
But you forgot to say a few things in your post:
Hey everyone, I made an expensive move and changed my life for a job, and it didn't work out. In fact, I got fired. If anyone is looking for someone with experience in X Y and Z, I'm your guy.
Reading the title, I thought the company did something horrible to you, but I must have missed it from the text.
(The biggest crime I see in this text though is the inconsistent capitalization in sf)
andys.blog/fine-print
cheers
FD Elon
and who are you i wonder, what's your "philosohpy" do tell!
who are you?
There are tens of thousands of SF dwellers that believe the same thing, and end up flipping burgers to afford rent in a shoebox. If this is the same philosophy that you bring into the workplace then I understand why you're treated like a liability.
is it that you need a new job and this is the hook? or do you have some insight into better ways of being letgo/fired/parted ways with?
its also not clear how long you were there for? (i'm not in the business of stalking people on linkedin)
some of us CEO types gotta grind and stalk on linkedin until the people come to us haha
and that is the point of comments sections.
or FIRE = independence retire early yes? move to 3rd world country yes? oops been there done that. haha
the fund did well. by well i have no f** clue what IRR was but i took months 3-6 of the internship and finished MIT instead of working the full term of the $5k/mo internship that Jamie Goldstein hired me for. so their headcount and portfolio at least grew beyond Russ Jamie Sarah + interns to a multiple funds thing thing, staple of Boston idk whatever VC on east coast "Big VC" oooo scary
it was a waste of time and of the firm's money to do this meaningless "background checks" i'm sure Russ and Sarah and Jamie would tell you the same. they don't regret not working with me longer Parker was the better hire for the firm. haha
Tiff has done amazing since.
so idk exactly what you mean - what VC and how do they research and what's SignalFire's latest from Andrew Ng at Greenoaks the chess prodigy YC founder who built literally the tool to source AI on the graph of the internet and calibrate founder elo per Sequoia's secret sauce... Andrew may or may not be my friend from Scale AI poker nights when we played bughouse with Alex Wang i dont remember i just go all in on the poker table.
oh did you read that mr vc: https://world.hey.com/tratt/how-i-won-16k-in-a-poker-tournam...
oh no you didn't oops
and tell me exactly how you plan to scrape the internet as a VC cuz my output is prolific and i guarantee gemini will tell a clear story no problem about Andy Trattner on the internet with the appropriate credence.
regardless of this HN thread.
see latest blog andys.blog coming out in about 15 minutes
Dang of YC and i are now besties so by extension PG is my homie. so this platform and i are tight.
One method is to "fail" at secondary goals which others insist are primary.
Comments can be posted with care, to influence the next episode. 1st-3rd degree reverse psychology is the sweet spot.
At least he's not in any legal trouble...
i do not claim six sigma so ^5 and beyond or like 4+ standard devs is beyond me obv there are only a few humans that good.
but i am good enough that i get calibration to the 1-4th degree psychology. thanks. and yes i agree all comments should be careful. and beautiful and art you look back at and laugh in 10 years, along with the rest of the world.
so you only have to speak once, in writing. then its over. and the context moves on tomorrow.
and instead become an angel of light and silicon valley MIT stardom.
oh did i say beat i meant beat your little sister who is 6 years old when you are 9 and then they steal your money to go take their kids to the Charcoal Grill while you have peanut butter in the kitchen and eat nothing good and that was done on $3k/mo social security checks in your name but you don't know because you are 9
and then they take your college funds and remodel their kitchen for $40k or $80k i don't remember dont even try to calculate the interest to date in 2026 from 2006 and then
they sell the house! for a profit!
and you pay your own way thru college. did you get that part of the story anon account?
and by the time you learn the word "statute of limitations" it has expired thusly
then https://andys.blog/p/1d8cf3c6-a63e-41fb-acc0-4d41f99e3f86/ coming out in a few minutes
Then is curious why you get “fired”.
EDIT - right*
I worked at a startup that offered to triple my equity if I stayed a full four years, a special offer to me for seven months of excellent performance. Four months later, growth below projections, they laid me off 19 days before my 1 year cliff. 3/9ths of the engineering team, gone.
The lesson I’ve learned is to never, ever, put long hours into a startup you don’t own. Ever.
Equity is a carrot that you usually never get, like the donkey you just keep chasing it.
The thing is even if you 'have' the equity share as an employee, you might never get liquidity. And (super obviously) most startups fail.
So even if you have a decent chunk of 'ownership', you really, _really_ need to believe in it to be working those hours. I'm talking the kind of belief built on your specialist and insider knowledge about why it's very likely to crush everything else. And even then you can get screwed!
-karl marx
https://aiosmedical.notion.site/working-at-aios https://www.linkedin.com/posts/richard-cartwright_40x-in-12m...
disclosure he's my friend and i already re-posted this to linkedin
give people hugs, as tim ferriss says
from zach and cat too haha i wish everyone just asked this question like if the world woke up and all the LLMs could talk and they just asked everyone
i suspect elon's truth seeking grok would just have a easy answer here. if only the info sources and context windows aligned.
https://computerfuture.me/posts/context-windows
^ i may or may not have written this on a-z.md first
or if you want to ask someone not me for ground truth, go ahead and ask Simple AI and YC hahaha
I mean, I just don't get it. There doesn't seem to be a purpose, and no ostensible benefit to be had.
i stand by it.
This guy's comments here are consistent with a person going through a serious mental health crisis, not eccentricity. Hopefully someone who knows him personally will see this and get him some help.
great context to add. that i was in a psych ward. do you have the paperwork. i will post the paperwork. in fact i think i already have. let me dig it up from my blog. or just use google
they hired me and kept me on the team and tried to get me not to leave ever by being kind managers
because i did support in slack and was a human Pylon and it was nothing. they were small tickets and API integrations. trivial for claude today.
as i said i did nothing. truly very little. my contributions to training openai or chatGPT or whatever roomers you here or hear or whatever are dump dumb hallucinations. sam altman can confirm rofl
but most people suck at applying John Doerrs OKRs i promise i asked him.
direct contribution to topline growth is how i'd look at it, or bottom line efficiency. the rest is noise.
actually i think Ruben Mayer taught me that one at Scale. do you know him too? great guy. very sharp.
he was cofounders with Botez, we played chess in high school. did you know that too? but i didn't talk to her much, Andrea just crushed me when she was 12 at the portland chess club i doubt she remembers either and all of this is water under the bridge. just funny stories
then the 0.02% Richard ni offered to double it to on the day i resigned with Sara Niyogi in the room as a witness as Richard's hands visibly shook on a routine firing of an employee...
it was sad and easy and pathetic for all of us. i was particularly immature and idiotic in how i handled that. please see my numerous blog posts on scale ai or use grok to find a list of them.
i was not paid severance at scale ai. i resigned. totally different situation. thanks for bringing it up Reticulates.
here are ones off the top of my head: - andys.blog/rare most recently - https://thenextlevelcareers.com/lessons-in-rejection-turning... (someone else wrote this) - https://world.hey.com/tratt/my-5m-choice-036905be (this one actually got a lot of emails from random people - wow thanks for sharing so brave helped me move on from the job i didn't like even tho i had golden handcuffs etc etc) - https://trattner.github.io/Scale-AI.html - i think this was the best one probably, i wrote it after doing the initial interviews on my 3rd attempt to get hired. thankfully Rilka / Angela didn't blacklist me after i failed that one coding challenge in js haha andytrattner.com/scale - the google doodle thing its on github somewhere - https://trattner.github.io/decade-reflections-2020.html this certaintly touches the scale ai days but i dont think it was directly mentioned here just for more context for the public you want to show the world my insanity about thanks
BTW i think all of this is ridiculous to outline in grave detail. anyone with a good enough memory who cares is at this point liquid, exited, under different management.
aka have fun, internet is for entertainment following. yes
memes
i agree with this assessment. i think it applies to all hires you background check or not.
hiring is an important and undervalued thing to do. people should do it with care.
if you are a friend or family member please just ring my cell?
this is pretty confusing i have zero known followers who are anon accounts that don't talk to me in person.
i'm flattered tho?
EDIT - done thanks @DANG i removed it
You even publicly posted your Separation Agreement, which contains a confidentiality clause in which you "agree[d] to maintain in complete confidence the existence of this Agreement."
It hurts to be let go and in these economic times, it can be scary. But this post is actually doing the opposite of what you want it to.
thanks for reading the fine print i didn't realize i had to not post that legally i will take it down now. tried contacted the lawyers (Cat & Zach & Jona but they didn't reply so now i will take it down. no prob. i'm compliant.)
thanks kindly!!! appreciate the comment.
Anyone in your "network" who sincerely wants to help would give you the simple advice I'm going to give you: grow up. This post and all of your replies here are cringey and immature, and don't bode well for your employability no matter how smart you are (or think you are).
oh also voice. when i speak to the atoms in the air to people next to me in meatspace
that's the big one. and the one Simple AI kinda bets on.
thanks for encouraging me to grow up that seems productive i will increase velocity t of the rate at which the future approaches me.